I say, pull our military out and let them have at it. If those fucktards can't get their heads out of their asses then they don't need to live to breed more idiocy.
oh, but, ~a~, I thought the whole reason we sent our military over there is to stabilize the region! You mean after almost five years of imposing our presence over there, we've just made things worse? Who'dathunk?
No, see, TBO, what we do is pull out, let 'em fight it out, and then when a Hussein carbon copy finally takes power, we charge in again. Endless cycle. Pull out, charge in, pull out, charge in, pull out, charge in... oooh, I'm feeling so warm.
~a~, I'm down with wanting them back, no longer in harm's way, but Iraqis lives are worse for our invading their country, SH or no, and I believe in cleaning up our own messes. That's what I teach Liv.
I think our dumbass CIC and his cronies don't really see it as "our" mess, though, and that is the narrative they are selling. It's really f-ing sad.
I just liked the fact that we're over there and imposed our feminist ideals in the women over there. That alone made it all worth while. But the men are obviously still a bunch of buttcheese. They were killing each other before, and they'll do it once we leave. It's just more in our face now. No different than the shit in Bosnia that Clinton sent us in to, it just didn't get the coverage Iraq is.
My question is, why don't we do the same to Castro. If there's any motherfucker that just needs to go away it's that one. Hopefully he just dies soon and his brother is struck by lightening. Now that would be cool.
The roots are long and deep. Mainly comes from the setting of national boundaries by people (in this case the British) with no respect for the locals. Really think Shia, Sunnis, and some Kurds for good measure would get together and make a country for themselves? Hell no, not any sooner that Tutsis and Hottentots (I'm blanking on African tribal names at the moment) woulda.
Trap rivals within national boundaries not of their own making and there will be bloodshed. Sure, there would be bloodshed anyway (I mean, who isn't killing each other?), but rivals tend to work out boundaries eventually when not interfered with by imperial powers.
In my mind, this is a big part of the problem with us going there. Our visions of success were divorced of a real understanding of and respect for the region's history. Pretty much willfully so, I'd say.
Also, back in the 80's didn't we also supply the entire region with more ammo than you could shake a stick at?
And I'm with you on the stupid men thing A, but Ly said it best when he said that all religions go through their "inquisition" phase, and this is that time for the Muslims.
No different than the shit in Bosnia that Clinton sent us in to, it just didn't get the coverage Iraq is.
Except there was an exit strategy, and didn't last an entire administration. It could've been covered more, but people were focusing on whether or not Clinton was foolin' around or summat.
It's just that Western culture, dating as far back as the Crusades, have not been content with letting that area be.
Including the full-fledged, no queestions asked support given to Israel (with no enmity towards our Hebrew brethren), whose actions are those of a bratty and pushy kid who knows he has a lot of bigger and burlier brothers to back him up.
Their presence in that region has not helped matters in the least.
Jesus, I don't mean to be picking on ~a~, but you're voicing thoughts I don't understand. Like the Castro/Cuba thing; the man's a mixed bag, and his rise to power wasn't bloodless, but since then, he hasn't exactly been Hussein-levels of evil.
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I say, pull our military out and let them have at it. If those fucktards can't get their heads out of their asses then they don't need to live to breed more idiocy.
oh, but, ~a~, I thought the whole reason we sent our military over there is to stabilize the region! You mean after almost five years of imposing our presence over there, we've just made things worse? Who'dathunk?
No, see, TBO, what we do is pull out, let 'em fight it out, and then when a Hussein carbon copy finally takes power, we charge in again. Endless cycle. Pull out, charge in, pull out, charge in, pull out, charge in... oooh, I'm feeling so warm.
~a~, I'm down with wanting them back, no longer in harm's way, but Iraqis lives are worse for our invading their country, SH or no, and I believe in cleaning up our own messes. That's what I teach Liv.
I think our dumbass CIC and his cronies don't really see it as "our" mess, though, and that is the narrative they are selling. It's really f-ing sad.
I just liked the fact that we're over there and imposed our feminist ideals in the women over there. That alone made it all worth while. But the men are obviously still a bunch of buttcheese. They were killing each other before, and they'll do it once we leave. It's just more in our face now. No different than the shit in Bosnia that Clinton sent us in to, it just didn't get the coverage Iraq is.
My question is, why don't we do the same to Castro. If there's any motherfucker that just needs to go away it's that one. Hopefully he just dies soon and his brother is struck by lightening. Now that would be cool.
The roots are long and deep. Mainly comes from the setting of national boundaries by people (in this case the British) with no respect for the locals. Really think Shia, Sunnis, and some Kurds for good measure would get together and make a country for themselves? Hell no, not any sooner that Tutsis and Hottentots (I'm blanking on African tribal names at the moment) woulda.
Trap rivals within national boundaries not of their own making and there will be bloodshed. Sure, there would be bloodshed anyway (I mean, who isn't killing each other?), but rivals tend to work out boundaries eventually when not interfered with by imperial powers.
In my mind, this is a big part of the problem with us going there. Our visions of success were divorced of a real understanding of and respect for the region's history. Pretty much willfully so, I'd say.
Also, back in the 80's didn't we also supply the entire region with more ammo than you could shake a stick at?
And I'm with you on the stupid men thing A, but Ly said it best when he said that all religions go through their "inquisition" phase, and this is that time for the Muslims.
No different than the shit in Bosnia that Clinton sent us in to, it just didn't get the coverage Iraq is.
Except there was an exit strategy, and didn't last an entire administration. It could've been covered more, but people were focusing on whether or not Clinton was foolin' around or summat.
It's just that Western culture, dating as far back as the Crusades, have not been content with letting that area be.
Including the full-fledged, no queestions asked support given to Israel (with no enmity towards our Hebrew brethren), whose actions are those of a bratty and pushy kid who knows he has a lot of bigger and burlier brothers to back him up.
Their presence in that region has not helped matters in the least.
Jesus, I don't mean to be picking on ~a~, but you're voicing thoughts I don't understand. Like the Castro/Cuba thing; the man's a mixed bag, and his rise to power wasn't bloodless, but since then, he hasn't exactly been Hussein-levels of evil.
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